Hello

I think I'm probably being dense or have simply mis-understood the capabilities of this model. I have inherited the cash register and being a complete novice am having a little play ploughing my way through the manual. I understand there are 8 departments and 80 PLUs. I am opening a cafe (small and do not anticipate being VAT registered for at least a year) and would like some advice. I think the (useless) manual tells me I can allocate what I want to the 8 departments? I was thinking:
1 Food Seated
2 Food Takeaway
3 Beverage Seated
4 Beverage Takeaway
5 Deli
6 Alcohol Seated
7 Alcohol Takeaway
8 Refund

I would then have a variety of PLUs e.g. Coffee, tea, cake, meal special, etc... duplicated for eat in and takeaway.

Is this possible? I don't understand the instructions for programming either and they refer to parameters ABCDEFG and I cannot tell how to key these or even if that is what it means.

I'm sorry if all this is dull, dull, dull for you. Really appreciate any help and advice possible.
Thanks

Hi,

Yes you can do as you would like, however this cash register doesn't print descriptions for departments or PLU's and it doesn't do reports of which PLU's you have sold, you can only get department totals.
So if you have PLU's for coffee, tea & cake all linked to Food Seated for example, when you print your end of day reading it will just tell how much you have taken on Food Seated and it won't tell you how many of those sales were coffee, tea cake etc.

With this in mind your cash register should be pretty much setup already as standard, you shouldn't really need to change the parameters unless you are using it to calculate tax.

Hope this makes sense, if you do still need any help or advice please don't hesitate to ask.

Regards

EPoS Wizard

That's good to know, thank you. I think we may be upgrading our till in a few months!

I can define the PLU so I guess we'll just have a sheet that describes each one and its Department, I think I got that sorted. I'm not clear how to program the department status. Accepting that I can't add descriptions, I couldn't work out how to set any of the parameters for the departments. For example, for the Refund department, I need to make that a negative (I think). The manual refers to parameters ABCDEFG but I can't understand how to change a parameter value, although I think I have set the entry on depts 1-5 to 0 some-how....

Am I right in thinking that I need to set all 7 (ABCDEFG) parameters for each dept? Perhaps it would be easiest to restore factory settings (if poss) to put back the ones I think I have changed by accident and then just set-up say 8 as refund (negative) and it looks like parameter F is defaulted to VAT1 = Yes but not sure what that means, we will not be VAT registered but we are going to sell alcohol.... so much to learn!

Its step 3 in the quick start operations in the manual that's confusd me if that helps?

Thanks so much for your help - I've never used a forum like this before but you are firmly lodged in my favourites now and no doubt I will express my gratitude via your 'donation' button!
Rebecca

Hi Rebecca,

Glad you like the site, please come back as much as you need to

Your cash register can be set back to factory default settings but to be honest it would be easier just to reprogram each of the departments again, then you have piece of mind that each one is set correctly from the beginning.

The ABCDEFG bit is a little tricky to work out from the manual, hopefully this will help a little,

Programming Departments:

Turn the key to Z/PGM
Enter the desired code from the list i've given below
Press X/TM
Press the physical Department Key that you want to assign these settings to (Or Shift then the Department key for Depts 5 to 8.)
Press #/ST to finish

Normal Vat Department - 17
Normal Non Vat Department - 7
Refund Department - 1000017

You will need to perform that procedure for each department in order to set their status. I think those 3 should cover everything you would need, if not let me know.

If you set your departments as Vatable all it means is that you will get taxable totals on your end of day reports. The report would say how much of what you've taken was vatable, and then the vat content total. Also it would show how much of what you sold was non vat.

I hope this makes some kind of sense, If not or you are unsure of anything please don't hesitate to ask.

Kind Regards

EPoS Wizard

There is no ABCDEFG on these Sharp Tills.
Don't waste your time looking for them.
Those letters refer to Parameters which you have to
set . ie for A if you look closely at the charts on the manual page
you will see it has a 0 or a 1 at the right hand side ? That
means that you have to choose 0 or 1 depending on your
preference. You then choose 0 or 1 for B , then C and so on.
then you put ALL of your choices ie 00001000 for example
into the programming equation which you are working on.
You must put all of the 1s and 0s in at the same time. Those
1s and 0s are like yes and no instructions to your till.

Hi

Hope you don't mind me jumping on the band wagon, but while we are on this subject...

I am also trying to get department 8 to be a normally negative number, but no luck so far. Here is my z/pgm readout...

000017 1
0.00
000017 2
0.00
000017 3
0.00
000017 4
0.00
000017 5
0.00
000017 6
0.00
000017 7
0.00
100017 8
0.00

Anything registered to department 8 comes out as a positive number

Any suggestions?

Hi,

You appear to have it setup correctly as you have Department 8 set as 100017 which is negative. If I remember correctly however, when you use a negative department it doesn't actually show a - on the screen so it's not very clear that it is negative. Maybe just try doing an X report, then ringing in something to department 8 then reproducing the report to see if the amount has come off.

Please let me know as I am intrigued now.

Cheers

Thanks Nemeisis

That is what it seems like to me. I need to try as a proper test, but we have had a a few mistakes where department 8 was used to register a sale (not a refund), but I think it registered as a positive amount, because it all balanced out at cash-up. I'll give it a go though.

Regards
Paul

Hi

Sorry for the delay

I can confirm that, even though I appear to have Dept 8 set up as a normally negative value, it is registering as a positive value. We had to do a refund the other day and it registered as though we had taken the refund value.

Not sure what to do now. Could be a bit tricky trying to explain this ot the Tax/VAT inspector.

Hi

I maybe wrong but the 6 digit code that everybody keeps refering too

000017 1
0.00
000017 2

as no indication that the department is negative.
Starting from the right in the above example the 2nd digit (7) is the entry limit, the rightmost digit is the department number.
the next four digits 0001 relate to the tax status,
and the left most digit is the SICS ( 1= single item cash sale) or Normal department
The negative is indicated by a - symbol prefix to the left of 0.00

The way that Epos wizard has explained to program is definitely correct ,remember though to press the shift key if trying to set departments 5 to 8

Again i maybe wrong but this is the way i read it in the operator manual